like yours are taking the initiative now to go forward and make the new discoveries in a time when nasa is dealing with budget cuts. >> you know, to us, we grew up, most of us in our company grew up watching apollo and it is an incredible legacy it is the equiv live nasa like lewis and clark. our job to find the edge and our job to do the industrial stuff and provide transportation and go out and help create the propellant and the materials to build. we want them to go to mars and do the fun stuff. we'll do the work and heavy lifting. >> how difficult of a mission will it be to get the resources from the asteroid. >> it will take a long time. even if you are mining it is 10-15 years. we'll start with the fire flies which are the little probes about the size of three laptops and robably 2015 and follow them with dragon flies. you might be picking up a theme there. they will bring back 25-50 pound and 2020 we'll send out the harvesters and they will bring back large multiton and put them in thoshit of the moon and that way if it falls down it will fall on the moon. >> it is groundbreaking